Comment from CARTER
Time: August 7, 2008, 7:03 pm

I didn’t know it was possible to Demise more than once, but i guess metallica have huh

Comment from Freud
Time: August 8, 2008, 8:13 am

At least you are still interested by what they do…i don’t understand what people like you want, i mean you keep spitting on them while other heavy metal band are available!!!Feel free to ignore them!!!!
I am a metallica fan for about 18 years, load reload st anger, weren’t that bad, but i took distance from them during this period and listened to plenty of underground band from black metal to xtrem hardcore, and one thing is sure mastodon DEP, converge, the red chord etc are fuckin great!!!
Thus i feel good about the new album, but if it’s not so what??? I think we ll have good tunes on this record a lot of energy and inspiration.
but that’s my opinion…

Comment from Rhodeislandrock
Time: August 9, 2008, 1:25 pm

I’ve been with Metallica since ‘83 and I have to agree that the Load/Reload/St. Anger era has been hard to take. Many people lump the Black album in there but it’s a solid record, slower than the first four and more radio friendly, but good.

The problem I see is that they just don’t care. They all have money, they all have families, personal demons, and other interest……they don’t need to care. If they cared like they did in the ’80s then they would have followed St. Anger with the most brutal album a couple of years earlier. Back then, they could have cared less about the establishment, about success, all they cared about was being true to Metal…..now they steer clear of the term. The only time they are true to their roots, to the fans, is when they play live. Ever notice their setlists? It’s all old school stuff from Kill’em All to the Black album.

I will buy Death Magnetic, just like I have bought every other Metallica record. I won’t preview it online, I won’t download it, I won’t pay attention to pre-release reviews. When it’s in my stereo and I press PLAY, i will know if it sucks or not. I knew about St. Anger almost immeadiately…..hopefully Death Magnetic is better.

Steve
Heavy Metal Addiction
http://hardrockheavymetal.wordpress.com/

Comment from Rhodeislandrock
Time: August 9, 2008, 1:26 pm

BTW, I agree with Freud (2nd comment)…..there are better bands out there.

Comment from Eric
Time: August 10, 2008, 12:23 am

I wasn’t saying that there isn’t better metal out there. In fact, metallica hasn’t been metal, they are hard rock with metal influences from their past. No one can disagree with that point Steve & Freud. But considering that most of us grew up with the “Metal” branding source direct via Metallica, it is just sad as we watch them dissapate into the nothingness. The talent is there, the heart is there, but the music has stopped. Plus, I wanted everyone reading to understand that critics will hype up this album as a back - to - roots type album. I guess we will wait and see.

Comment from coled24
Time: August 12, 2008, 3:26 am

Its going to be straight up garbage. St. Anger was probably the worst album I have ever heard by anyone. While I am sure there are worse albums I have heard by incredibly bad artists, this was a Metallica album and it was abysmal. Nothing about this band is good anymore. “Jaymz” can’t “syng,” Lars is an embarrassment, Kirk is a pushover and Rob Trujillo is just another solid bass player. Rick Rubin will help but if anything he’ll try to market it to the mainstream just like he does with every other metal act he handles. Metallica is dead and should be gone. They are the Magic Johnson of Metal. They are slowly killing their great career by coming back fatter, older and much shittier.
Look forward to the review (podcast, hopefully!) of Death Magnetic by yours truly (Cole), Nate and off and on AMR contributor, CARTER. If we can get our technical situation out, you will have AMR’s first ever audio review and on top of that, we’ll be piss drunk!

Comment from Nate
Time: August 12, 2008, 8:02 am

Cole, the laptop recorded stuff pretty well, even without a voice recorder so I think we’re set in that department. Now we just have to wait for that piece of slimy shit to drop into our all-too-readily waiting hands.

Comment from jeff
Time: August 13, 2008, 4:24 pm

of course they dont sound the same as that clip you provide from 20 YEARS ago. If I sang like hetfield I dont think I could keep it up for 5!!!! They’ve been around for a quarter of a century. They want to try new things and faggots like you dog them for that. If I ate nothing but cheeseburgers for 20 years I’d think fuck, lets do something a little different. I love metal but some of the bands that you all praise such as slayer and slip knot, well, they fuckin suck. A bunch of mish mashed shit. I think all of you all need to get a job and get out of your parents basements and maybe try to get laid. Although it might be by fat chicks but hey, they need lovin too.

Comment from cody
Time: August 13, 2008, 8:16 pm

Jeff - Ahh the ole “get a job and get out of your parents basement” routine. Isn’t this played out Jeff? And what would compel you to believe that we reside in our parent’s basement, or need to get laid? The bottom line is, I was waiting for a Metallica fanboy response, because I knew it was inevitable. If you read this again Jeff, please tell us the legitimacy of latter day Metallica, and why we should give a damn about anything they release besides the fact that we write about this stuff?

Comment from Nate
Time: August 14, 2008, 8:53 am

Wait. Jeff — what!? You sound retarded. I don’t think Metallica got together and said “Guys let’s try something different, I want to start making shitty music”. They actually think they’re getting back to their roots, or playing “what metal is all about” with no solos. Have you heard “We Did it Again”? Back to the roots for sure. Listen to that and tell me if you have any respect left for them.

By the way, if the answer is “yes”, don’t bother replying to this post.

Comment from mark
Time: August 18, 2008, 3:56 pm

I think the new album is gna be pretty fucking good! Cyanide gave promise. And i dont understand why people are always bashing metallica, its “cool” to bash them? Load and reload where diff BUT still pretty darn good.
Ok metallica became more mainstream, they made a bunch of cash…you know what i say to that GOOD FOR THEM.
If we were in there place we would have done exactly the same, everyone wants money.

PS. St.anger did suck cock thou.

Comment from hardcorefiend
Time: August 21, 2008, 3:06 am

I THINK, AS A NATION, WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED TO EAT ANYTHING THAT IS PUT IN FRONT OF US.
If I could no longer do a studio album of quality, I should recognize that. Metallica should just remain a live band. They perform a great live show! Metallica IS my favorite band, yet I am ashamed to admit it lately.
Janes Addiction was smart enough to call it quits. As Joey Ramone said “There should be a mandatory
retirement age for all bands” enough said!

Comment from CARTER
Time: August 21, 2008, 2:50 pm

Mark I have to disagree.. Load and Reload were not that good. Reload had like 2 listenable songs, and Load is just.. ugh. It’s just like crap rock. Bands that actually play that kind of music normally do a much better job at it. Soem of the songs on Load are just so drawn out and over dramatic, and the drumming is laughably bad. Lars has absolutely no feel, he barely knows how to play drums. I can’t take anything past the Black album, i honestly can’t. St. Anger? whoof. Nobody should ever have heard that.

Comment from Podge
Time: August 27, 2008, 9:40 pm

Heres an interesting idea… try and count how many metallica bashing comments youv all typed in your live… DO SOMETHING MORE CONSTRUCTIVE!!!… try and write kill em all 2… cant???… then stop complaining that tallica cant either… THERES STILL NOTHING LIKE METALLICA LIVE!!!

Comment from mike
Time: August 28, 2008, 10:26 am

Why does everyone think that a 25 year old band is going to sound exactly the way they did when they first started out? I’m not saying the last 3 albums were great but Damn it people will ALWAYS bitch about something. No matter what they do, someone will say I hate this or Metallicas washed up…but yet you ALL KEEP BUYING “the next CD you’ll never buy again”. Stop expecting Master of Puppets on ever new release!! They are a differnt band then back then..get a grip!

Comment from cody
Time: August 28, 2008, 12:15 pm

Mike and Podge - What would you do if Iron Maiden or Judas Priest made an album that threw in modern hardcore breakdowns or industrial death metal (yes, I know Metallica has used neither of these)? Or even worse, what would you do if they did a tour with Staind and Disturbed?

We don’t expect another Master of Puppets or Kill’Em All, we just want a METALLICA album, not modern rock or an angsty album like St. Anger. Metallica built their reputation on thrash, and once Bob Rock got a hold of them, it was all about acquiring a mainstream sound, thus destroying each of their souls. Cliff Burton has been rolling in his grave for awhile now.

Comment from metahz
Time: August 28, 2008, 11:39 pm

“It seems Metallica still doesn’t consider why they make music: for the fans. And, sadly, it has been this way for a long time.” Who the fuck are you to tell Metallica why they make music?!? They’ve always said what Hetfield stated. They make music to make themselves happy, then they show it to whoever wants it. That, my dense friend, is called artistic integrity.

Godammit. You DON’T define who Metallica is or does. Metallica define Metallica. You either like it or not. No one is force feeding you. How can someone judge an album they haven’t heard? Is that rational? Has it any logic to it? Grow the fuck up. Stop Bitching! when I don’t like what I hear, I go away, I turn it off, I just don’t listen to it in the first place. I don’t bitch about it for eternity. Metallica don’t owe you jack shit. Metallica don’t have to make music for you. Get that through your dense skulls. And pleeease stop usin Cliff Burton’s name to make your points. Respect the dead. You didn’t know him, you didn’t tour with, made music with, got drunk with, were friends with him. Leave his memory alone.

Comment from Hingo
Time: August 29, 2008, 8:52 pm

LOL You are a fucking joke mate. You think Metallica should write music just for their fans? You think when they wrote Kill ‘em All they wrote it for fans? No, they wrote it because thats the kind of shit they wanted to play. Grow up douche bag.

Comment from coled24
Time: August 29, 2008, 10:14 pm

Sweet jesus. I cannot believe I am hearing all of this. Metallica is DONE. I was a HUGE metallica fan for a about 5 years. All I listened to, literally. They were great, no doubt. The metal band of metal bands when they were in their prime but that was then, this is now. People who peddle off this garbage they have released for the last 15 years as “changing style” are completely off. While the style is different, the quality has dropped off incredibly. Its slow boring rock and thats just Load and Reload. St. Anger is still the WORST album I have ever heard by anyone. This band needs to stop because they are making a mockery of everything they once stood for and were all about.
And as for Metallica live being amazing, I completely disagree. Maybe 20 years ago but I saw them in 2003 and “Jaymz” was dropping lyrics all over the place. Lars sounds about 1000000 times worse because he can’t doctor his sound with production. A bunch of pyros and a band that was good 20 years ago doesn’t automatically mean a great show. I’ve seen a lot of shows in the last 5 years and Metallica doesn’t even rank in the top 15. Dark Tranquillity in a room with 75 people in South Burlington, VT blew Metallica at Giant’s Stadium out of the water.

Comment from coled24
Time: August 29, 2008, 10:16 pm

And Jeff… take a look at Mikael from Opeth, amazing growls and an A class clean singing voice and they only gotten better over the years and Opeth has been making music for almost 15 years. James Hetfield is lazy, egotistical and overrated. His vocals sound like shit, he needs to go home and take care of his kids and go to parent teacher conferences.

Comment from Miles91
Time: August 30, 2008, 3:41 am

I’ve heard three NEW metallica songs in the past two weeks… And all three are good.. They are different, Fast, hardcore, in your face dont give a fuck music.. Kirk Hammet is back doing amazing solo’s. Lars is back using an actual snare drum… This whole Demise comment is such shit. I bought into missionmetallica.com and i’ve seen them work, been away from their families for a very long time, which in fact, family is the most important fucking thing in life you tools.. Metallica is far from done, after reading many interviews from Hetfield, even admitting himself that St Anger was the lowest point of Metallica.. This album is going to kick all you haters asses and im gonna laugh so hard when you come back to this or another site and say how good the album was, how much improved it is from the previous 3 studio albums… Seriously, this album is the missing album between Justice and the Black Album, that is exactly where I would put this and compare this to.. Sure its got alot of old school feeling mixed in with the newer type of thrash thats out there.. Fact is this, I’ve heard 3 songs from the new album, all 3 have fucking kicked ass.. So keep on hatin Metallica, keep saying they are done, etc etc. Because when this record comes out in FULL, you’re going to feel so fucking stupid for talking shit in the first place… And thats a fact.

Comment from Shangshaptak
Time: August 30, 2008, 3:40 pm

I have only one thing to say : Forget Metallica. However hard it is to do so, force yourself. In the end you’ll be the gainer. Metallica, in the form we knew and loved…….died loooong ago. Expectation for the new album? Obviously zero. And to the people who are saying things like ” Ooh metallica played for so long….they evolved…..must evolve…got bored..must change…..” - that’s simply jackshit. Look at iron maiden, Judas Priest, Overkill, Testament etc. etc. etc…..hell, look at Ozzy. The guy can’t fucking speak two words without getting his tongue in a slipknot……but at least he’s trying.

Comment from Jeff W
Time: August 30, 2008, 10:56 pm

I can’t even begin to explain how stupid this article is.

Comment from Podge
Time: August 31, 2008, 7:51 am

You saw them in 2003! i saw them 11 days ago… they kicked fuckin ass!!!

Comment from coled24
Time: August 31, 2008, 11:57 am

No one should ever describe Metallica as “hardcore.” Metallica should have kept on boozing and playing thrash and not this stupid post-therapy garbage.
I will revel in how much this album will suck. If these first few songs are any kind of example… its just going to be, as my friend puts it, “Re-Anger.”
Thank you Shangshaptak for making some sense. For all of you who think that bands HAVE to change look at Slayer. Been around for just as long as Metallica and listen to Christ Illusion and compare it to their past work. They show their age but they are still thrashing. What I’m noticing more and more is that Metallica is music for people who don’t actually care about music itself and just want something to blast out of their pick-up/Camaro around small town USA in a feeble attempt to look badass.
And finally, giving Lars a “real snare” doesn’t change the fact that he doesn’t actually know how to use it. There’s a reason why he’s not in the AMR Top 10 Metal Drummers. There are no videos of him at international drum festivals and conferences because he doesn’t get invited. Just watch the Joey Jordison video of him playing Creeping Death in place of Lars. Jordison is overrated as hell but even he does SO much better. Listen to a real drummer and then listen to Lars. I did it. It’s a jarring experience for those of you who only listen to Metallica.

Comment from Capz
Time: August 31, 2008, 12:49 pm

Hard rock is better then thrash anyway, imo. I love the load/reload/garage inc style of metallica. They just have more variety. Sure if you like thrash, metallica is dead…thats’ fine. Move on. But if like variety etc, I think as far as hard rock bands go Metallica is the best.

Comment from Zelmo
Time: August 31, 2008, 5:16 pm

I think “My Apocalypse” just about single handedly demolished this idiots article…My question to you, Mr Idiot, is that when the album comes out and is good, which after hearing The Day That Never Comes, Cyanide, and My Apocalypse, (plus all thw advance word) it really seems like it will be , will you have the balls to come back and write a whole article saying what a fucking dumbass you were.

And while your article is dumb enough as to need no rebuttal, I do want to say one thing. Metallica didn’t sell out by exploring new musical terrain as a band. Selling out is when you make music not from the heart just to get people to like it. Your concept of why bands make music IS selling out. In fact, had Metallica kept thrashing through the 90’s when inherently they felt like making Load, then thrashing would’ve been selling out, comprimising their musical integrity to make pansies like you happy.

Comment from Zelmo
Time: August 31, 2008, 5:22 pm

Just to rub it in:

Metal Hammer
http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/podcast/

Thrash Hits
http://www.thrashhits.com/2008/08/album-me…death-magnetic/

Music Radar
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/met…ck-guide-171254

Terrorizer
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermo…wsitemID=103679

The Quietus
http://www.thequietus.com/articles/metalli…-track-by-track

These aren’t vague reviews…they are very specific and very positive.

I’m waiting for your article about how you’re a good for nothing know it all. Only your bitterness will keep this album from being enjoyable. Dont do that to yourself man. It’s safe to like Metallica again, and let the music world beware.

Comment from coled24
Time: August 31, 2008, 10:13 pm

All but one of those links works and it doesn’t take you to a review.

I stood by Metallica for years. I was a huge fan. If it wasn’t Metallica, then fuck it. I used to hate Megadeth because Dave Mustaine got kicked out of Metallica and as a Metallica fan, that was the right thing to do. I am now a bigger Megadeth fan. Mainly because Megadeth can still make good music and it still sounds like Megadeth. Frankly, I think Metallica should’ve just bagged it after Reload and just formed a new band. New name, new sound. Look at a band like At The Gates. After three albums, they released Slaughter Of The Soul, an album that defined a style and influenced so many bands, and that was it. At The Gates, done. They knew when to stop. They recently came back to tour a bit for some reunion shows and when asked whether they would make a new album, they all said “No.” They said they would consider starting a new band to try different things so the legacy of At The Gates would stay intact. Completely respectable and admirable thing to do. Metallica could’ve done the same thing but they didn’t and now you have a band that is just making a mockery of the fantastic work that they we’re known for. In addition, what will sell better? THE NEW METALLICA ALBUM or A BAND WITH MEMBERS FROM METALLICA?
I will say that My Apocalypse is definitely the most intriguing song they have done since Outlaw Torn (the only good Metallica song from Load, ReLoad, and St. Anger). It still doesn’t do much for me. I’m not fiending to hear it again any time soon. I think I’m just over Metallica. They would need to seriously WOW me and thats not going to happen. I’m not going to hear something from them that compares to an album like Still Life by Opeth. So say what you want about us being dumbasses and how we’ll eat our words but we were all diehard fans like you guys but eventually we all saw through the bullshit that is Post-Black Album Metallica.

Comment from coled24
Time: August 31, 2008, 10:23 pm

And I just noticed the comment that defines every rude, stupid fuck non-metal, diehard Metallica fan:
“I love metal but some of the bands that you all praise such as slayer and slip knot, well, they fuckin suck. A bunch of mish mashed shit. I think all of you all need to get a job and get out of your parents basements and maybe try to get laid. Although it might be by fat chicks but hey, they need lovin too.”
Why do you assume that we LOOOOVE Slipknot and Slayer? Every Metallica fan that knows jack SHIT about metal thinks that everyone loves Slipknot and Slayer. I’m not a fan of Slipknot and Slayer is alright. As for the mish-mash shit comment, this proves that you know NOTHING. Slayer and Slipknot, while not my favorite bands, are made up of some very talented musicians. Dave Lombardo, Joey Jordison, Mick Thompson, KERRY KING, Jeff Hanneman… You don’t have an ear for music. You don’t understand it because you don’t listen to anything more than Lars playing the same shit over and over again and Kirk playing decent solos. Open your mind and go listen to a band that does things a little bit differently. Odd time signatures, varying vocal styles… Learn why a lot of death metal bands are so respected in the music community.
Thanks, Mark, for showing that you’re understanding of music is nothing more than “METAAAAALLLLICCCAAAA!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!”

Comment from coled24
Time: August 31, 2008, 11:30 pm

One more thing…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWsSC8VBPyI

Nope. Not sell outs. Not one bit. Never. True Metal. The Heaviest of Heavy Metal.

The prosecution rests.
eeeeeeeeeeeee

Comment from Luke
Time: September 1, 2008, 7:44 am

Hetfield’s absolutely right. Music has to be written from the heart and released according to what Metallica wants and not to appease pissed of fans. Admittedly, i thought St Anger was total shit and as such am balancing on the wrong side of optimistic about Death Magnetic. But to write off an album before you’ve even heard it is just fucking idiotic. Pull your head out of your ass and listen to it WHEN IT COMES OUT, listen to it like you’ve never even heard of Metallica and then post an unbiased review,….then i may pay attention!

Comment from Fabio
Time: September 2, 2008, 1:49 pm

All i know is that of the 3 songs i heard, i liked one a lot (my apocalypse), i consider one a good song (The Day That Never Comes) and i unfortunately really dislike one (Cyanide). 2 off 3. I can’t say much about the 30 seconds previews, but they actually sound old school and i renewed my enthusiasm about the album, waiting to hear songs like “All Nightmare Long” (very heavy-old school sounding riff), “The Judas Kiss” (same), The Unforgiven III (bad title choice, i’m just curious about this one), “Broken, Beat & Scarred” (again for the preview). Then, old school or not, sell-out or not, i’ll just enjoy the music. (Then i mean, no hypocrisy, we can all listen to it before buyin’it.. If you’re afraid of being screwed “St.Anger style”, just listen and then you’ll decide to buy it or not.. i’ll do that). Metallica will never be the same as the 80’s, but if this album is a good one, i’ll buy it.

Comment from Matthew
Time: September 3, 2008, 3:47 am

I think people who have a negative perspective towards Metallica’s new album will be eating there own words!!!! Unfortunatly for some reason certain people have an issue with Metallica, anything good musical piece they bring out people flame it straight away!! I swear man, If they brought out an album that sounded like Master Of Puppets haters wouldn’t even notice it and still flame it. If you only listen to heavy metal or speed thrash metal than I must say you people have a limit musical vocabulary.

Stupid arguments I laugh at are as follows

*It’s not like their first four albums (The first four albums are totally different, speed may be the same but the tone and quality of the music differs)
*They’re not the same as they were back in 80s
*Metallica owe me a proper metallica album (Metallica don’t owe you jack)
*Metallica sold out. (Metallica heard that argument before when they released Fade To Black on RTL)

Comment from Zelmo
Time: August 31, 2008, 5:16 pm

I think “My Apocalypse” just about single handedly demolished this idiots article…My question to you, Mr Idiot, is that when the album comes out and is good, which after hearing The Day That Never Comes, Cyanide, and My Apocalypse, (plus all thw advance word) it really seems like it will be , will you have the balls to come back and write a whole article saying what a fucking dumbass you were.

And while your article is dumb enough as to need no rebuttal, I do want to say one thing. Metallica didn’t sell out by exploring new musical terrain as a band. Selling out is when you make music not from the heart just to get people to like it. Your concept of why bands make music IS selling out. In fact, had Metallica kept thrashing through the 90’s when inherently they felt like making Load, then thrashing would’ve been selling out, comprimising their musical integrity to make pansies like you happy.

Well fuckin said Zelmo

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 3, 2008, 8:34 am

I listened to the three tracks, as if i had never heard metallica. And if these were not released BY Metallica nobody would have listened to it. It’s disjointed, VERY poorly drummed, and even poorly vocalized music. It’s just crap. I try to like it, try to pretend its ok, but I can’t. Metallica fanboys need to fucking get over it and find better bands, which takes about 4-8 seconds with an internet connection. Oh and Zelmo, you are fuck-tarded. Metallica compromised their musical integrity many times after 1990. The bottom line is Metallica want to make money, and don’t give a fuck what their fans think. Fans make bands sucessful, ignoring them is a luxury only bands like Metallica with their zillions of dollars have.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 3, 2008, 8:36 am

Oh and by the way, this may sound blasphemous, but Metallica was never that incredible. Search for videos of live stuff from even the 80s - they could never even play Disposable Heroes right. Lars has always fucking sucked. I used to love Metallica, but I grew out of it and found muhc better music.

Comment from Nate
Time: September 3, 2008, 9:17 am

Well said Carter. Metallica should have given up long ago. Then at least, I might have still liked them.

Comment from Ryan
Time: September 3, 2008, 4:11 pm

Hey, CARTER open mouth insert dick.

Thanks, if you never even liked Metallica WTF listen to Death Magnetic? It’s a fucking amazing album. I’m not a fanboy either…St. Anger was fucking horrible.

Comment from Matthew
Time: September 3, 2008, 10:32 pm

“Metallica fanboys need to fucking get over it and find better bands, which takes about 4-8 seconds with an internet connection.”

Hey Carter I listen to Megadeth, Dream Theater, Iced Earth, Down (Stone the Crow doesn’t even come close to a heavy metal song), Black Label Society, Pantera (Including Albums prior to CFH), Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Led Zepplin, Satriani, Steve Vai, even Michael fuckin Buble etc the list goes on.

I’m a fan of hard rock/metal, blues, jazz, etc. Neither of these bands are better than the other. Like I said “If you only listen to heavy metal or speed thrash metal or whatever kind of metal than I must say you people have a limited musical vocabulary. ” Speaking as a musician I don’t think you understand what it means to have soul in your music. You think Dimebag Darrel gave a fuck that Pantera was a hair face paintin hair metal band, I don’t think so, he never apologized for it he was never embarrased about it, his favorite band is Kiss.
But let’s look closely, Kiss’ music is totally different to any Metallica’s first four albums, and albums from CFH onwards, yet Dimebags favourite band is Kiss’. Go figure that one out!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QsV2Jg7tSE <<Listen to zakk wylde HIS PLAYING FUCKIN PIANO!!! That doesn’t even come close to anything heavy or metal like. If you think metallica’s music should always be like the first four albums than you have a warped sense of what music should be. You can like whatever you want to like I’m not here to force anything down your throat but a song doesn’t have to be fast, heavy, crunchin guitars or have long massive solos just to make it a good song. Listen to Mama Said off the Load Album, you think Jaymz dedicated that song to his fans? Very Unlikely. And it’s more unlikely he made that song for money, including Outlaw Torn. You don’t pull that kind of musicianship for the sake of millions of dollers it’s just not possible.

You guys don’t care about music, you just want some band to play for you own egos.

Comment from Matthew
Time: September 3, 2008, 11:08 pm

And just to rub it in. If Metallica’s Black Album Sold millions why come out with Load. If they really are money hungry musicians Metallica would have come out with a Black Album 2, even Reload is way different than Load. Hell, Master of Puppets sounds different from Kill’em All. Money didn’t change them, it was their popularity that made Metallica huge.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 3, 2008, 11:37 pm

Because they wanted more money. Celebrities like Metallica spend money and want as much as possible.
As for this comment about not liking music… you like Metallica. A band that did NOTHING adventurous at all. They played good music but a lot of total idiots can play their shit. Check out bands like Opeth, Necrophagist, Meshuggah. In order to be a fan of those bands you have to be a fan of music to pickup on the nuances and different styles of music. Bands like that rank very high on my list and I can say the same of the authors at AMR. A lot of us are into pretty progressive shit, so don’t think to know what we listen to just because we all think that Metallica shoulda hung it up 18 years ago. The fact is that you really don’t music. You defend Metallica’s last 15 years and you list DROWNING POOL and DISTURBED as favorite bands. The fact of the matter is that Metallica is about no one but themselves. I know a kid who asked Lars for an autograph real nicely and he fuckin spit on him. Yeah real fan-friendly class act. They fuckin suck now and have for the last 15 years. You CANNOT begin to tell me that the song Ronnie or even King Nothing compares not in STYLE but in QUALITY to ANY song off of the first 5 albums. Its fucking preposterous that anyone could defend this washed up pieces of trash. They aren’t for the fans, they are for Metallica. I was once a huge fuckin fan of this band. Most of my t-shirts as a kid were Metallica shirts. Its what I was known for. I knew all the songs and they were all I gave a fuck about and I stuck with em and even tolerated Load and Reload. I wish they were good again, I really do. So does every person that HATES Metallica. But they just gave up on their real fans, they gave up on their roots of being fans of the music and not the fame. Selling art? Doing group therapy? Come on. If you told James this after Master Of Puppets came out, he probably would have shit himself. This was a band you could depend on for cool lyrics about war, fast paced riffs and badass solos. What is it now? Corny, mundane lyrics, boring riffs and the typical kirk hammet post 1990 solo. Please, just go listen to extremely technically proficient bands and listen to the variation in the music as compared to Metallica. Open your mind before you become what I was like in high school: a kid who didn’t like other bands… because they weren’t metallica.

Comment from Adi
Time: September 4, 2008, 3:25 am

This thread is really loooooooong and i did have time to read it all…but i got to listen to the whole album, and i can say its…..AWESOME. They have become heavy again, its polished and clean, not like st.anger… and all the songs except maybe the 10min long instrumental ’suicide and redemption’, are good. Now, people, if u still hate metallica, bcoz they are money hungry, or bcoz their songs aren’t about war(coled24 i hope ur reading this), dude it would be LAME for all their songs to be based on war and shit like tht. U want fast paced riffs, and this album has that. Death Magnetic is gr8, but they could have made it better(especially the instrumental), and we would have something like a M.O.P II, except for the badass image, and the angry hetfield voice. But James isnt in his early 20’s now, so for what he can sing now, he’s singing really well, his vocals are brilliant for his age. For those who STILL hate metallica, then get the fuck out of this site, and stop listenin to metallica, its not like metallica’s short of fans…

Comment from Adi
Time: September 4, 2008, 3:32 am

And by the way Carter, u keep talkin shit bout metallica…why are u here??? if u hate them so much, and u think that they dont gve a shit bout the fans..why do u still show that u care, by even visitin the site???? And if u think that metallica cant play disposable heroes rite, who the fuck wrote that song??? AND METALLICA IN THE 80′S DID NOT SOUND BLASPHEMOUS, THEY SOUNDED FUCKIN AMAZING. Period.

Comment from stalker
Time: September 4, 2008, 4:29 am

What are you talking about? “Real fans”, “sell-outs”, “going back to their roots”… Why most metal fans are so narrow minded? They’re are humans, you know. They grow up. They change. Their interests change. How can you expect them to make Master v.2.0? They made it back then because they felt like doing it - and it was good. Or Kill ‘em all. Why do you expect grown up males to write songs like Seek and Destroy? o_O People just don’t stay the same all their lives, that’s ok, that’s normal. They have a right to change, ffs, they have a right to give up music completely and focus on something different. They live their lives, they do what they like, you cannot tell them what to do and how to live. What the fuck is wrong with cutting your hair? 0_0 Keeping long hair to prove to somebody they belog to some group of people, calling themselves metalheads - that’s just so immature. Wake up, Hetfield is 45. He’s not a teenager anymore. He doesn’t have to prove something to somebody or stay true to something. That’s what teenagers do, y’know. You can’t be a teenager at 45. Well, you can, but that’s not a good idea, that just looks sad…
What’s the big deal anyway? Why do you need all this shit - being true fans and all that? They released some music you enjoyed greatly once - that’s all that matters. Feel good about it. What if they’d never start a band? Be thankful for what they gave to you. So, they changed - they don’t feel like doing it anymore. What’s the big deal? Go on live your life, listen to other bands. Be open minded. If you have problems with Metallica changing their music - that’s your problems. You created those problems by chosing closemindedness and you’re responsible for solving them. Don’t focus on one band, they’re not your slaves and can’t all their lives write music you personally like at the moment. What if you change to and start listening to jazz or funk? You can do that, it’s your life, you’re in control and you can try something new and interesting. Why people involved in a band called “Metallica” can’t do the same? Are they less human beings than you are? Why don’t you give them a right to be in control of their lives? You can’t make someone do what you want, just deal with it. If you can’t deal with it - that’s sad and you really should do something about it instead of complaining. That’s just life and you have to deal with it. Nothing stays the same - just find yourselves some new sources of enjoyment. Or start your band already and express yourself. That’s fun. No other band will express your views and emotions better than your own. Seriously.

Comment from Deccaz
Time: September 4, 2008, 6:39 am

Hey mate, Death Magnetic has leaked. All 10 tracks are available from your favourite (albeit, illegal, torrent site) All ten tracks I have heard. Prepare to suck on those long, veiny, throbbing words of yours. September 12 (Or rather, September 4) is the day that all haters “demise” as you put it. Happy listening.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 4, 2008, 10:21 am

Matthew, I’m also a musician, and yeah. Just the fact that you like Disturbed is reason to discard any comment(s) you’ve made thus far. I said “better bands” not “shittier bands”.
Retard.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 4, 2008, 10:22 am

And just because you can play Ride the Lightning on guitar doesn’t make you a musician either. “Just to rub it in”.

Faggot.

Comment from Mark
Time: September 4, 2008, 10:37 am

Hate to point this out to you haters but the new album is actually REALLY good and is getting a tonne of good reviews. It actually is a HUGE step in the right direction. so up yours

Comment from Nate
Time: September 4, 2008, 11:47 am

Drowning Pool. Disturbed.

Should’ve said “I’m a fan of [shitty] hard rock/metal, blues, jazz, etc”

Fuck off. Cole’s right: bands with talent that shows — Opeth, Meshuggah, Necrophagist — and to a further extent, Textures, Withered, and Neuraxis, to name a few recent favorites of mine…these bands should be praised, not some washed-up piece of shit assholes that made a few good albums and then forgot how. Good for you, we all appreciate non-metal artists, but don’t come on the site and say Disturbed, Drowning Pool, and praises for Metallica and expect credit. Death Magnetic may be better than St. Anger, but that’s like saying getting kicked in the nuts is better than getting them cut off.

How is making a false point rubbing it in? “Money didn’t change them, it was their popularity that made Metallica huge.” Yeah — money changes people. But they made money, and gained popularity, by making bad music. When they got rich, it made them into pompous, untalented, and worst of all relentless, garbage. Like you…advocating Drowning Pool. What is wrong with you? You should be ashamed.

Comment from Kewls
Time: September 4, 2008, 11:59 am

I’ve got an early copy and I’ve listened to it front to back about 4 times now (as I write this I’m listening to All Nightmare Long). Here’s my review on this new disk: It is classic Metallica…and really, isn’t that what everyone has been wanting for the last 10 years? Come on people, give these guys a break. They step out of their comfort zone (admittedly the last 10 years were pretty sad) and everyone rags on them. Fine. They know they’ve produced shit, so…….they go back to what they do best and everyone compares these 10 tracks to the past. I get it…its natural to do that. And yes, I can hear so much of the old ‘tallica in these songs, but shit, this is why I loved this band in the first place…so wouldn’t it make sense that of course we’ll think this album kicks ass? Well, it does. James sounds like he’s 21 again and he can still write great songs. The lyrics are awesome and you can tell that James is in control of this again (thank god). This is what he does best. Speaking of that, Kirk is fantastic and there’s at least 3 solos that just scortch and (sorry to say this) but take you back to the old days when he did it better than anyone. I won’t get into Lars that much…all I will say is that I’m glad he’s decided to put all this shit behind them and again, do what they all do best—and he’s up to the challenge.

All the songs are excellent except for Unforgiven III. Sounds too much like the other two and hence this is probably why its my least favorite. The opener “That Was Just Your Life” is such a good choice to kickstart the album. It will become my favorite song on the disk for sure. And as for the Metallica trademark, you can always count on the last track on the album to kick you in the nuts and “My Apocalyse” does. This will be awesome live.
For true Metallica fans this is a return to glory days with some new updated riffs and hooks…just what you’ve been asking for….I’m sure you’ll love it. For those not so convinced, Celine Dion is on tour and comes to your town soon…

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 4, 2008, 2:58 pm

I wouldn’t call it a return to the glory days - Lars plays horribly and James voice is nowhere near as cool as it was back in the day. I hate people that are just falling for this cash in by Metallica. All of the riffs are such lousy progressions, its like the riffs themselves practically say “See? We can still do it!” but it just comes off as lame to me.

Comment from Mike
Time: September 4, 2008, 3:18 pm

This is a new low for the heartbroken trail of former Metallica fans who clearly gave Metallica too much power over their happiness: a pre-emptive review of an album you haven’t heard yet. I wonder how many other people wrote blog entries to “kill the hype,” and how many of them know that the best way to move on from the Metallica that’s supposedly been dead for the last twenty years is to ignore them completely. There’s no such thing as anti-hype, by the way. There’s positive hype and negative hype, but it’s all hype. BTW the album leaked and it’s pretty decent.

Comment from hoov3r
Time: September 4, 2008, 3:54 pm

Carter, shut your fucking mouth. This cd is bad ass, and imo… the bridge between anjustice and the black album. I would even say it rivals justice if james voice was still as bad ass as it used to be.

I just see these tired comments trying to justify why they don’t like it. Go listen to you six feet under you fucking cunt, I know your breed of meta head. Opeth loving disrespect to those who gave way to real metalhated shit bag. The reviewer is a fat fuck aswell.

As for the “reviewer” You are spouting off shit about it not sounding good astheticly <– spell check. They created pop music for that kind of thing. Or better yet, try out some under oath, They can grow out there hair, but the fucking hair flipped to one side thing isn’t hiding there real emo intent very well. You pop loving break down faggot.

Comment from silverpaddy
Time: September 4, 2008, 5:01 pm

isnt it funny the way some people take ownership of a band?? then demand what that band should play, and how they should sound, what they should look like, how they should wear their hair, how they should speak, how they should sing, how they should play thier instruments…….holy fuck, what ever happened to artistic freedom. people you are all entitled to your opinions, but metallica dont belong to you, they can do what they like, and you can ignore them, you can choose not to listen, you can listen to irion maiden and testament and all that other shit, go ahead they need your support, the onkly thing metallica has sold out is stadiums…..you dont sell over 100 million records by being consistently shit……i dotn know any band that didnt have a dry spell, or a major donkey in their back catalogue, load/reload (it was the 90’s!! what did you expect??) st anger? james was away with the fairies and kirk was afraid his mate was about to top himself so probably just kept his mouth shut when it came to solos…..
fuck me, most of you tossers who are complaining are the ones who cheer the loudest at the gig when nothing else matters kicks in, or when fade to black fires up, what i remember was you lost the plot when those songs made their debut…..the funny thing is you also probably didnt even BUY the cd/casette but recorded it off your mate next door who had the actual manners to BUY it……shock horrow Metallica arent a charity band either……

Comment from Loki
Time: September 4, 2008, 7:57 pm

Looks like it’s cool to bash metallica and some people don’t feel good unless they do that..i have to say: just get a life,fuckers! you don’t like it then don’t listen to metallica! what the fuck is wrong with you people?! it’s normal that they’ve changed,everything that sorrounds them influences how they think and feel and that reflects in their music…they’ve always been like that and they play whatever they want to…and another thing:if you didn’t like the load,reload and anger albums that doesn’t mean they suck! i bet that if other band band had released those albums they would have had been great (at least load and reload) but beacause it’s metallica let’s shit on them,huh?! yeah,i love the old albums but i don’t hate the after load era…and i really think that the new one is a great album! my apocalypse kick ass man!it’s fucking thrash!!!

Comment from MR SCOTT
Time: September 4, 2008, 8:21 pm

You’re wrong. This is no cash in or gimmick, this is simply the kings of metal coming back to reclaim their crown. ‘Death Magnetic’ is an album that can stand proudly alongside all their pre-1991 output. Lars’s drumming is fucking incredible, Kirk’s better than ever as is James and Rob is the bassist Metallica has always needed. Not just that but the songs are incredible. ‘St Anger’’s songs were overlong without even going anywhere, wheras the songs on ‘Death Magnetic’ go everywhere. This is how metal should sound, and to all these people whinging i ask you what else could you ask for from Metallica?

Comment from cody
Time: September 4, 2008, 9:37 pm

Why is it that most of those defending this album don’t know how to formulate correct punctuation and grammar? Is it just me who is noticing this?

Comment from Greg
Time: September 5, 2008, 12:07 am

OK. I’ve heard the three songs released so far, and I loved every one of them. Especially My Apocalypse. As I write this, I’m listening to the opening of the first track (That Was Just Your Life) and so far it’s impressive. Brings me back. Unlike many people, I consider Justice to be the last good album, fuck the Black Album. I’m hearing this now and I’m having flashbacks of the 1980’s! The only difference being that you can tell James is getting old, but he still sounds great considering he’s pushing fifty. I’m at about three minutes into the first track now and I’m more and more impressed with every minute. I’m having Justice flashbacks, seriously! I’ll post again once I’ve heard the whole thing, but I have a feeling that for the first time since 1989, I’m going to hear an amazing Metallica album!

Comment from coled24
Time: September 5, 2008, 12:22 am

Mr. SCOTT,
Its not thrash. What other thrash albums would you know about that aren’t by Metallica? This had better impress me.

Comment from Adi
Time: September 5, 2008, 12:50 am

Most of us who have to defend the album are expected to give an argument on why the album is good, which means we have to write quite a bit..so we cut it short by using slang, so cody, if you were defending the album and you had to write A LOT…then would you bother writing everything in perfect english or not? And guess what? I wrote THIS without any slang or sms language….:D

Comment from Greg
Time: September 5, 2008, 12:59 am

you don’t want to get in a thrash argument with me, it’s not even about that. It’s about Metallica putting out good music again. I love thrash, and I love good music of any type, whether it be classic rock or fucking Scum Bitch.. ah good ol black metal..but that’s a different subject. But, if you must know, some other thrash bands i’m into: Voivod, Motorhead, Slayer, Death Militia, ANY Megadeth except for Risk, older Xentrix, Fastkill, Wehrmacht, Defiance, fuck.. I’m not even going any further because I’m tired of going off the topic at hand.

Anyway, I’m a little over halfway through the album now (at 2 minutes into Unforgiven III, and I have to admit, it’s my least favorite song on the album.. but then again I was never a big fan of the first two.) And except for this one, I’ve gotten exactly what I wanted, and then some, being that my expectations for Metallica had drastically dropped. Sure, Metallica may be a bit more mainstream then a lot of other thrash bands, but I’m not looking at it on that level. Is it a great album? So far, yes, it’s fucking amazing.. No, I wouldn’t consider it thrash per se, although it’s a lot closer than anything they’ve done since 1989, but it has a lot of thrash elements, mixed in with some other shit.. But it blends together well, and makes for an extremely solid album, and regardless, it’s STILL got some blistering fast riffs, and a few of the songs I’d definitely consider all out thrash. Anybody who’s into old Metallica and is on here trashing this ENTIRE album is either a.)lying or b.)so pissed off after 20 years of shit that nothing from Metallica could be good again… and I admit, I thought I’d be in that category, especially after St. Anger (which I’ve only heard two songs from, and to this day refuse to listen to that album), and seeing Some Kind Of Monster, but I’m happy to admit that I was proven wrong. Sure, James in particular has turned into a whiny bitch. But he’s still good at what he does. Lars, well, he’s always been replaceable, and I’m amazed that wasn’t done years ago. Kirk.. well, he’s still a badass..and Robert makes a great addition to the band.

Anyway, Judas Kiss is starting up, and trying to type is taking my concentration away from the music. So I’m done with this typing shit for now.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 5, 2008, 3:09 am

Just heard it. Not impressed. This is no return to classic Metallica thrash because its not a thrash album. You want a good new thrash album by an old thrash band, Formation Of Damnation by Testament. Better yet, Enemy Of God by Kreator. How bout some new thrash bands with recent releases? Skeletonwitch, Municipal Waste and Warbringer. Listen to those before calling this drek a THRASH album. This is just like cutting room floor stuff from the Black Album - Load years. Its also ungodly long. Long songs are cool when they don’t stick on mundane riffs for 90 seconds. I’m still planning on getting loaded and reviewing it but I am going to release a full review sober and hopefully get my message by to some of the obnoxious fans that seem to think that Metallica is the only real metal band that exists.

Comment from jackulator
Time: September 5, 2008, 4:49 am

I haven’t heard the whole album yet, but I will say that if you like pretty much just the first four Metallica albums, you WILL like Death Magnetic - period - for my money it’s like seeing an old friend after a long time

I’ve only bought like 3 albums in the last 5 years or so - audioslave and radiohead - but I will be proud to buy this one next Friday

Comment from Jones
Time: September 5, 2008, 5:26 am

Please, coled24, don’t write a review. Or anything else for that matter.
You don’t like it. That’s fine. Don’t listen to it. But don’t go around and say it’s bad and “mundane” from an objective point of view. Because the bottom line is: DM is just not your cup of tea (or music). So shut it and listen to something you like.
I think it’s an awesome album and rocks harder than anything they did the last 20 years - most of which I liked btw.
They do what they please, they make the music they want to hear, they still are really good musicians (esp. James) in my book. I downloaded the album, I listened to it about 5 times now, I will buy it. How often did you listen to the album? Because if you really like metal (or rock music overall), you should know it takes time to ‘get’ an album. Justice for all was HATED by most right when it came out, for the production, for not being MoP part II - it’s regarded as a masterpiece now.
You just want to be an ass. Be an ass somewhere else. I’ll listen to Metallica.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 5, 2008, 8:40 am

MR SCOTT: “Lars’s drumming is fucking incredible.”
Hahahahahah. You are officially retarded. Have you HEARD a real metal drummer before? Lars literally doesn’t know how to play drums. He does the most ridiculous fills that no drummer in their right mind would ever do, can’t keep time on his double bass parts, is sloppy everywhere. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Get off your knees fanfag.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 5, 2008, 8:42 am

Yeah, why are these people coming to ALL Metal Resource when they should just go right to http://www.metallica.com?

or more like http://www.metallica-is-the-only-band-ever.tv

Comment from TommyG
Time: September 5, 2008, 9:04 am

Is this 80s thrash Metallica? Naw.

But anybody expecting that 20 years later is fooling himself.

What this is is a vast improvement over their last few albums, and their best effort since the Black Album.

The sound isn’t bad. It’s a mish-mash of their rock sound with nods to their thrash roots. After listening to everything on the album, there’s some that I consider mediocre (Unforgiven III), a handful I really like, and nothing I really rate as being bad.

Moaning about it as being a sell-out just sounds like pettiness because somebody can’t get over the fact it’s not speed metal. This is a solid album with a good sound. After the previous three releases, I think there’s really no room for complaint - at least they’re making the attempt to go back to what worked for them as Metallica.

It sounds to me like they’ve done a good job of it.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 5, 2008, 10:47 am

Bottom line: All metal fans know Metallica not all Metallica fans know metal.
If you say you know metal because you listen to Pantera, Slayer and Slipknot in addition to Metallica, theres an entire world that you don’t know about. Different sub-genres, styles and bands that will turn your understanding of music upside down. Look through our postings and see how many bands you recognize (example: go to the Labor Day Random Album Pile-Up post and tell me if you recognize any of those bands). Listen to other things and then go back and listen to Metallica. I guarantee your thoughts about this once incredible band, will change. And even if you do and you comeback still loving Metallica more than anything, that’s fine. But don’t come onto a metal website telling the people who write for the site that they don’t know shit about music, when you’re not even into the real genre. There are 40 year old women out there who claim to be Metal fans cause they did some drugs in the 80s, have a copy of the black album kicking around and have seen Godsmack 3 or 4 times. Anyone can say their into metal, but you better be able to back it up when you come onto a metal blog spouting unintelligible bile.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 5, 2008, 11:45 am

This is the also the last time I say this on here, Lars fucking sucks. I cannot believe anyone is actually arguing for this idiot. Maybe if he spent more time playing the drums instead of standing up and making stupid faces and gritting his teeth, he could grow as a drummer. I would bet that he doesn’t practice in his off time. He probably played a lot in his youth and because of that he stayed somewhat tight but he never tried anything adventurous. Now he probably doesn’t practice at all so he’s off pace and cannot hold a double bass beat for more than 3 seconds. The man is a laughing stock when it comes to drumming. As a metal drummer he is AWFUL and this is an accepted fact by many people, even a lot of Metallica fans.

Comment from belt_fed_lead_head
Time: September 5, 2008, 3:40 pm

In one corner you have carter and cole, so blatantly anti-metallica. In the other corner you have the metallica fanboys. both sides can’t review the album subjectively. the album is decent. better than any of their other albums (except the first four, which themselves didn’t have much in common except speed)

Here’s something for you guys to think about. Real metal of today has gotten heavier. Shit, sanitarium, south of heaven, peace sells and other older songs wouldn’t even be classified as metal today. Drummers and guitarists of today, while not necessarily more skillfull, seem to be playing at a more blistering pace than 20 years ago. and there are so many fuckin metal genres too.this is a good album. Metallica does show their age in it though, and it is not true thrash, but getting closer than previous efforts

If you like it, get it. If not, get something else. i will get it, and will also get a shitload of other metal albums too. death, thrash, black, hardcore, melo-death, viking, folk, metalcore, they all fucking rock.

Comment from culapipaw
Time: September 5, 2008, 5:00 pm

ok, i just got the new album. and man… i think you need to apologize.
i can still hear kirk’s riff bursts echoing in my brain…
it’s like holding up your crap for 1 month and finally dropping the big bomb [insert randy marsh].
WELCOME BACK METALLICA!!!

Comment from Dave
Time: September 6, 2008, 1:35 am

I just need to add a few comments. I’ve only heard half the album so far so I’m not going to review it, but I think it’s pretty impressive so far. Here’s the thing though…speaking as a musician, you cannot write for the fans. Maybe they are a different case with their longevity, but if you are writing for the fans and not yourself, what’s the fucking point? The point of music is an artistic expression and creative outlet, and if you’re foreced towards one style or another because that’s what you’re “supposed to do”, then you’re just a hired gun and you should just fucking stop. The shit rocks so far, even if it doesn’t quite pack the bunch the old records did. Personally, I don’t think you can fault a band for trying new things, even if you don’t like them. This is coming from someone that was genuinely dissapointed by Load, Reload and St. Anger. Just my opinion…

Comment from JDub
Time: September 6, 2008, 2:46 am

I got the new album I like the new songs but wouldn’t say the new stuff compares to pre black album stuff. i like it though, some of the guitar work is cool I think kirk is awesome i kinda think lars blows and his input makes the band donkey at times i kinda feel like hes mostly to blame for st. anger he seemed like he was a butt buddie with bob rock and his drums were a major reason people shat on the album

Comment from Eric
Time: September 6, 2008, 5:27 am

Boy, the writer of the article above must feel like an ass. Death Magnetic is the best metal album of the Millenium so far. I know Dave Mustaine must be pist they just out did all his efforts i.e. Rust in Peace and so forth.

Comment from 5150
Time: September 6, 2008, 9:26 am

Death Magnetic sounds to me like a hearty “fuck you” to anyone who would doubt that these guys have lost anything over the decades.

Comment from Eric
Time: September 6, 2008, 12:57 pm

What I find funny is the people here are talking about talent but it is all subjective. A good example is Slayer. I love them but they can not play a solo to save there life. In fact I would say all the solo’s on St. Anger are better than the ones on Seasons in the Abyss. My opinion but I bet alot would agree.

Comment from Moonfrost
Time: September 6, 2008, 5:30 pm

I liked most of the review (or should I say preview?) except for the part where he says that they are supposed to make music for the fans, totally wrong but I don’t want to go over it because some people here have already explained it quite well.

Anyway, I have heard the whole album and I’m not impressed at all (wasn’t expecting to be either) but I have to say compared to St. Anger I think even a Limp Bizkit album is better than that so I obviously will say that this album is MUCH better than that, but it’s still not very good at all and of course, it’s most definitely NOT thrash metal.

It’s really lame how close-minded Metallica fans are towards metal and even music in general, most of them know absolutely nothing about metal…or music for that matter it seems. I have to mention that as many people have here, Lars’s drumming sucks, the riffing by James and Kirk is alright but nothing special. Some people get pumped because Rick Rubin did the production, while I felt the exact contrary about that because he tried to make bands more mainstream and he IS NOT a metal producer and should never be, because he produced Slayer’s Reign in Blood doesn’t mean that was him who made the music or whatever, it was the band themselves.

I don’t think a producer can change the band’s ideas unless they are puppets (like many on the pop and other mainstream-music industries). There are many things I have to say but many of them have been said here…

PS: coled24 seems to nail it every time he starts typing to post a comment, read his comments and think a little bit, I’m not saying anyone is going to change your minds people (Metallica die-hard fans) but “think” a little bit about it.

Comment from Moonfrost
Time: September 6, 2008, 5:37 pm

This is kind of a continuation to my last comment…

Metallica die-hard fans, open your minds to other metal sub-genres (including Thrash, a new kind of metal genre which you have probably never heard in its real state) like (in no genre order) Kreator, Sodom, Destruction, Opeth, Necrophagist, Decapitated, Warbringer, Finthroll, Ensiferum, etc etc etc…

Also, age doesn’t mean anything, look at Overkill, they are almost if not older than Metallica and they get sicker every time I see them live (and on studio too), also bands like Judas Priest (waaay older than Metallica) and Iron Maiden should show how age has nothing to do with Metallica’s incompetence to make good music (notice I didn’t say good “metal”).

Comment from coled24
Time: September 6, 2008, 11:08 pm

Moonfrost, couldn’t agree more and thank you for the compliment.
Now then, this Eric fellow seems to be a bit confused. St. Anger had no solos and Slayer is absurdly talented and showed it. Dave Lombardo is one of the great metal drummers and a master of thrash. Kerry King is easily one of the best thrash metal guitarists of our time. Saying that he can’t play a solo is absurd, you just didn’t like the music because you don’t really like thrash. Slayer in the 80’s-early 90’s were pure thrash, moreso than Metallica. Metallica brought in a popular/mainstream feel to thrash towards the end of 80s. So the thrash that most Metallica die-hards say they love really isn’t what the true definition of thrash is. Bands like Nuclear Assault, Anthrax, Slayer, Death Angel, Megadeth, Testament and Demolition Hammer are true examples of American Thrash bands of that time. Metallica took thrash from a different angle and definitely was thrash but not “classic” thrash. Another reason why is simply because Lars is not a thrash drummer. Too slow, sloppy. I would have love to heard metallica with someone like Paul Bostaph, Dave Lombardo, Nick Menza, or Thomas Stauch. Talent is not subjective. You can either play well or you can’t and in metal, you aren’t going to hold back instead of making your song sound that much faster or crazier and in turn that much better. Death Magnetic is NOT the best album of the millenium. Its not that great. Better than the last 3 but that doesn’t say much.

Comment from Eric
Time: September 6, 2008, 11:27 pm

LOL so your saying Slayer has a talent for playing guitar solos? I lOVE Slayer but now I know how tainted this blog is. LOL,LOL,LOL give me a break. I’ll give you Dave Lombardo is a fine drummer and their rythem section is good but to say they are good at any soloing is absurd. I laughed through the eighties everytime they did a solo and that means live too. Moonfrosts idea that Overkill has any talent is laughable The Years Of Decay was ok just OK. After that it was down hill especially the lame ass girly singing. Sometimes a voice says it all and his said I suck.

Comment from cody
Time: September 7, 2008, 12:48 am

Eric, by saying Overkill’s talent is laughable and calling Blitz’s vocals “girly” absolutely takes away any credibility you have as a metal fan. Contrary to popular belief, Overkill was the world’s first thrash band, and one of the first to add in heavy bass lines to thrash. D.D. Verni is one of the best thrash bassists in existence (save for Cliff Burton who was always the most talented member of Metallica). Oh, and btw, Jeff Hanneman and Kerry King BOTH play solos and lead in Slayer, so there really is no real “rhythm section” in Slayer, and if it weren’t for their style of playing lead guitar, death metal would have never manifested in the way it did. Simple as that.

Comment from Moonfrost
Time: September 7, 2008, 12:52 am

@ Eric…girly singing? and I didn’t say Overkill has any talent…………….but they do, and compared to Metallica anyone does, by the way, have you heard DD’s bass? please, you shouldn’t be on a metal forum if you don’t know anything about METAL ITSELF!

I mean, even the US that’s all based on trends and crap like that has MUCH better bands than Metallica, even in the 80’s and of course so does Europe. If you don’t like bands like Kreator or Sodom for example then you shouldn’t be on a metal forum discussing THRASH metal. It’s pointless to keep explaining really.

Comment from popy
Time: September 7, 2008, 1:14 am

coled24…….How old are you man?…Now I have to disagree with you…mmm…you are not the owner of those bands man, you are just a listener. If you do not want to listen to our guys(Metallica) just step aside, do not fill all these heads with your ideas. The objective of this post is to talk about Death Magnetic, that is all.

Comment from popy
Time: September 7, 2008, 1:22 am

Those Grammys cannot be wrong!

Best Metal Performance
1990 - 33rd Annual GRAMMY Awards
Stone Cold Crazy

Best Metal Performance
1989 - 32nd Annual GRAMMY Awards
One
Metallica

Best Metal Performance
2003 - 46th Annual GRAMMY Awards
St. Anger

Best Rock Instrumental Performance
2000 - 43rd Annual GRAMMY Awards
The Call Of Ktulu

Best Hard Rock Performance
1999 - 42nd Annual GRAMMY Awards
Whiskey In The Jar

Best Metal Performance
1998 - 41st Annual GRAMMY Awards
Better Than You

Best Metal Performance
1991 - 34th Annual GRAMMY Awards
Metallica
Metallica

Comment from Eric
Time: September 7, 2008, 8:34 am

To be honest i’m not a Metallica fan but alot of Overkill sounded at the time to be Metallica knock off’s. I never doubted Slayers rythm section its the best but come on with the solo’s. The same thing that was mentioned about Lar’s drumming above could be said about slayer solos’. A very inexperienced player could do better. Kreator is a good listen I have always enjoyed Coroner’s Grin album myself.

Comment from Eric
Time: September 7, 2008, 8:41 am

And yes the singing was girly E…limination. Boy the versus’s on that track rocked but the Chorus E.limin..I need a voice. After that album the voice got worse…and higher..I was a fan, tried to be, but their music went downhill, DD is a great player with a great sound to bad one bad singer with an affection for high octives ruined most of the music. Playing with spiders/skullcrusher shined…I loved it…where did that talent go.

Comment from Eric
Time: September 7, 2008, 8:42 am

By the way I own all these albums have studied them for years…know how to play most of them, have jammed them with lots of people…I know a thing or two.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 7, 2008, 10:44 am

No, you cannot compare Lars’ drumming to Slayer’s guitar work. Lars Ulrich is HORRIBLE.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TD-_FM8_d9c&feature=related
Listen to his feet, he’s absolutely AWFUL.

Comment from cody
Time: September 7, 2008, 11:21 am

Eric - I suppose you think Rob Halford, Geddy Lee, and virtually every falsetto vocalist are girly? That’s a lot of rock and metal vocalists man. Oh, and Overkill sound NOTHING like Metallica, hence the division between bay area thrash and NY style thrash. NY is much more bass driven which you can clearly tell in Overkill, Anthrax and Nuclear Assault albums. And about Slayer’s solos, you do understand that purposefully play off key right?

Comment from cody
Time: September 7, 2008, 11:23 am

Popy - Did you really just pull out fucking Grammy wins as evidence of greatness? Yeesh.

Comment from Eric
Time: September 7, 2008, 12:44 pm

I did not say falsetto was girly i said E…limination as a chorus with his voice just flat ruined the song along with plenty of other Overkill songs. The only time I can tolerate it is when they really rocked like E.N.D’s and those are few and far between. You guys are a joke in your basement right? Metal Resource is a joke? Wayne and Garth its time to come out of the basement…

Comment from Moonfrost
Time: September 7, 2008, 3:43 pm

*yawn*…the basement cliche is getting old please, why would you assume such a thing anyway? and I don’t think you have “studied” any of those bands…I don’t even think you know that many metal bands, specially non-american bands.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 7, 2008, 10:34 pm

Popy - First off, the word Grammy means nothing to a metal fan. And furthermore, look at the songs they won for; BETTER THAN YOU?! Seriously? I’ve heard catchier riffs come out when I’m taking a shit. Secondly, I’m old enough to know how to properly express my opinions with proper grammar and spelling, also known as age 24. Judging by the way you write, you can’t be more than about 11. And NO, this was not a post to discuss Death Magnetic, it is an editorial about how this album is going to be another failure for this once great band. So I can say whatever I want, not to mention the fact that I write for this site. And please, come on guys… the mother’s basement cliche is getting a bit ridiculous. However the fact that you use that saying lets me know that originality is something that must have passed you by years ago and its probably why you actually appreciate Metallica albums released after ‘91. On top of that, you don’t know shit about music and you never will judging by the things you have written. Listen to Death Magnetic, I don’t care. Love it, hate it, I couldn’t give a fuck either way. But don’t come around saying its some kind of magical achievement for a band that fathered albums such as Master Of Puppets and …And Justice For All. Don’t make excuses about their age or whats in their heart, thats a bunch of bullshit that James uses as a cover for the truth. The truth is that they shot their load after they stopped touring for the Black Album. Load sucked, Reload sucked, St. Anger REALLY sucked and Death Magnetic is tolerable at best and fuckin atrocious at times. I’m tired of people coming out and getting all huffy any time Metallica gets criticized. Metallica is probably the most important and influential band in the history of metal and hard rock. No one can take away from them. But they are still human, they’re still a band and I’m going to judge them like a band. All you Metallica fans act like you give a shit about the band and what they want to play and what comes from their heart. Well guess what? Fuck you, cause you’re really a hypocrite don’t give a fuck. If Metallica decided to bring in Fred Durst to do split vocals with James and the decision was made from “their hearts,” you’d all shit a St. Anger fist. Get it straight, Metallica says that shit to cover for the fact that they just can’t play the style of shit they wrote years ago, to sell fuckin records and captivate close-minded Metallicaholics like yourselves. They should change the name of the Official Metallica Fan club to “Naive-ica.” Go read the reviews I write for this blog and listen to the albums, maybe you’ll learn “a thing or two.”
I’m done.

Comment from bob
Time: September 7, 2008, 10:52 pm

I dunno man, the new record actually DOES sound like them getting back to doing what they do best. It sounds like a cross between “Puppets” and the “black album,” except the production is cleaner and James Hetfeld sings on pitch now. I know that every album we hear that “this one is them getting back to their roots” jive, but this actually does sound like Metallica not experimenting and just being Metallica. Lots of doubled up lead stuff, caveman yelling, and four on the floor grove against bygodchuggachuggachugga thrash. It’s kinda predictable, but in a good way. It sounds like a solid, unpretentious, FUN Metallica record. They’ve never made a record quite like that, since they’ve been experimenting (not always for the better) in one way or another on every damn record they’ve ever made. It sounds like they’ve realized what they are good at and decided to do that. No, this doesn’t live up the standards of what they did in the eighties, but come on. Those records pretty much defined underground heavy metal. (Yeah I know, Venom blah blah blah……but can you name a good black metal album made before “Kill ‘em All” showed people the right way to thrash?)

If you judge it as a modern metal record it’s a little puny (give me Pig Detroyer or give me death), but that’s not the standard. This is certainly the best mainstream rock record of the decade so far.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 8, 2008, 12:54 pm

Eric’s been around guys. He can play Slayer on guitar. He knows a thing or two.

Comment from Brandon
Time: September 8, 2008, 5:35 pm

New album was leaked and it sounds very good. Your intial review is simply shit bait.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 8, 2008, 8:40 pm

Metallica fans are just fuckin stupid. Simple as that. Just a bunch of naive idiots that apparently cannot read or write.

Comment from meta
Time: September 8, 2008, 9:41 pm

“Metallica fans are just fuckin stupid. Simple as that. Just a bunch of naive idiots that apparently cannot read or write.”

Thanks for the brilliant insight. All of this on a thread about an album you “don’t care if people hear or not”. What a patethic “guardian of metal”. Grow the fuck up.

Comment from Eric
Time: September 8, 2008, 9:58 pm

Coled24,

I’m not sure I get why you’re being so disrespectful of folks on this board.

The bottom line is, you made an initial prediction stating that Metallica’s new album will not bring any change to the new sound of Hardrock-illa (Metallica).

You were absolutely wrong about that prediction. You can argue it any way you want and you’ll still be wrong.

The truth is, I absolutely shared your point of view when you wrote the initial article. I was so glad I was wrong though.

I don’t really know what your problem is. Just be happy man.

Comment from art
Time: September 9, 2008, 12:43 am

well in case you guys decide to listen to this guys view on Metallica as a hole i suggest you listen to there new album and decide for yourself the writer of this preview seems terribly troubled by the what he thinks will be another bad album but its one of the best Metallica albums in years in my opinion and i think many Metallica and metal fans will agree on. another note i gota laugh how people say lode relode and st.anger where terrible they where good they just weren’t old Metallica but they where still better than the other metal bands out there people are so quick to judge them on there old stuff why cant you just except change and see the good in the new albums? but people will continue to be close minded so decide for yourself. but i say “The Metallica machine has greased its gears with blood again, and its turning fast” Ps i didint say that somone on another blog did it was just to cool i had to quote it lol

Comment from art
Time: September 9, 2008, 2:18 am

oh as fore this Coled24 guy you seem to think you know more than everyone else on this blog its quite ridiculous you have stated your opinion but judging metal fans (Metallica fans in this case) as and i quote “Metallica fans are just fuckin stupid. Simple as that. Just a bunch of naive idiots that apparently cannot read or write.” is pritty immature and presumptuous i cant spell or punctuate at all that doesint mean shit becides the fact that my grasp on literacy is lacking but your comments on age and what not are stupid and bias im 18 younger than most of you im sure but i can see the immaturity in you comments and its quite amusing that you have no better way to spend your time than to harp on people with oposing views than yourself its rediculious i duno you dont like the album fine some do cant you leav it at that?

Comment from Skip-GR
Time: September 9, 2008, 4:24 pm

Well well, I dunno what everyone is expecting of the new album. I’m a fan of many types of music(moby,Satyricon,Cradle of filth,Greenday,Nirvana, Guns N Roses, Pantera, Slayer, the cure, Smashing Pumpkins Listen to XYU for real heaviness in a song).

Metallica have a couple of weak albums in their past, what band doesn’t? But Metallica were in the forefront of the trash scene (the big four etc) and I dunno what the hell is up with the metal know it all at the beginning of this page, his head is firmly up his arse. He’s not into sell outs? Jesus; it is a living of course and money is an influence, what does he do, charity all the time?

Point is, its music and it appeals to many people and money is to be made. I’m reluctant about the new album but I believe the hype for many of the tracks I’ve heard, it is back to the days of maybe AJFA or puppets. Give Metallica a break and let go of the past (nerd at the top humble metal fan blah blah blah) there will be no pleasing you, go back and enjoy the music that is “underground” or hasn’t got a massive fan base so you can call it your own. You say you’re a humble metal fan well why do you feel then to slag off an album you haven’t given a full listen to? I think you’re a pretentious twat that thinks being a dissenter/against popular opinion, is somehow making you feel like your the true metal fan and more superior as opposed to the fans that Metallica have aquired over the past 27 years…

So I hate the pretentious slant on the argument that I have read above (maybe it’ll be below when this is posted) anyhow, as they say; opinions are like assholes, eveybody has one. You don’t believe the hype ( you sound like public enemy) if you don’t fair enough but don’t blog if you are trying to be sounding smart, you come across in a weird way, a smug know it all and trying to go against the tide that metallica is creating just so you can feed your own ego as some who knows better and hark back to “the good old days, when I remember…” blah blah blah. Death Magnetic is a good album, it will probably not trully please the the humble metal fan, but thats a lonely voice in the wilderness or the select cult that he has aligned himself with. Maybe you also think Mayhem has sold out in the Black metal scene, or maybe Satyricon has too… Go listen to Gorgoroth and shut up…

To finish, a word to all normal music/metal fans, take the album for what it is and try not to listen to pretentious, contrary W@&k3rs that post premature opinions on albums without giving it’s fair listen to, there will be no pleasing the “humble metal fan” . Death Magnetic will be an excellent album make no mistake.

Comment from Skip-GR
Time: September 9, 2008, 4:38 pm

coled24 - You haven’t a clue and maybe you’ve just showed how stupid you are - presumptious knob.

Comment from Slord
Time: September 9, 2008, 4:41 pm

Fuck The Reviewer.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 9, 2008, 5:15 pm

Why am I being disrespectful? Because Metallica fans are stupid egomaniacs that think that there is only one type of music: Metallica. Simple as that. They shit on everyone else because they align themselves with the most popular metal band of all time. Every time I meet some diehard Metallica fan and try to talk about the metal genre with them and other bands, its like talking to a fucking wall. Your run of the mill Metallica die-hard doesn’t know shit about music or have any semblance of taste for other styles or genres but according to them, they know everything. And while it is water under the bridge, a guy by the name of Eric wrote the initial article, I’ve just commented on it profusely because I cannot agree with him enough. I’m just really tired of the people that come around making broad and idiotic statements about metal and metal fans. And while I made a broad statement referring to Metallica fans, I’ve talked to more close-minded know-it-alls to make that statement.
And Art, your lack of puncuation, grammar and spelling detracts from your argument drastically. Take the time. For fuck’s sake, is a period that much to ask for? And then you call me immature. Well, I’ve branched out, explored different styles of metal, read books and now I write for this website and have received positive feedback on my work. However, when I contest Metallica all of you come out of the woodwork to cast your stones at me. Not a single one of you has ever commented on any of my other reviews or articles. Is that because the only band you care about is Metallica? Probably. Variety is the spice of life and the way that we as humans grow is by trying new things and by learning that some of things that we stood by weren’t as great as they seemed.
Now then to address Meta… When did I say that I didn’t care if people heard it or not? Search the page, the only time it was written was in your post. Secondly, I never dubbed myself as a guardian of metal. I see myself as someone tired of having to hear people praise this band after they’ve taken an immeasurable nose dive in quality over the past 15 years.
Feel free to comeback and fling even MORE shit at me in a few days when I post my full review. And, no it will not be in the comment section of this post.

Comment from J-K_D
Time: September 9, 2008, 5:56 pm

I have enjoyed all of Metallicas music, even St. Anger. I have also listened to many of the bands mentioned above Testament and Megadeth being my favorite out of those groups….. but I still come back to Metallica. They may be mainstream, have gone through rough times, but in my opinion their music has always meant something. I love the songs off of St. Anger… especially Shoot me Again and The Unnamed Feeling. I know all of the lyrics from Kill Em All through Death Magnetic. I am not trying to argue anything, I just think in the end its all opinion. I love metallica and not because they are an image, but because when i crank Metal Militia, Until It Sleeps, and now My Apocalypse it takes me to another place, much like Last Rites/ Loved to Death by Megadeth or Souls of Black by Testament……….

Comment from meta
Time: September 9, 2008, 9:00 pm

@coled24
“Listen to Death Magnetic, I don’t care. Love it, hate it, I couldn’t give a fuck either way.” you wrote it.

What defines a ‘guardian of metal’ is someone, like you, who can’t live with the praise given to others. You can disagree of course, but people like what they like. You like something else, fine. I don’t need to tell you what I think about the bands you like, it’s completely unnecessary. Besides that basic point, your arguments are weak. In respect to you “review-to-be”, as with all other reviews, I either agree or disagree. I’ll say something if I think the points are not well made or solid, or if blatant lies are thrown around, but that’s it. You’re entitled to your opinion. There’s a saying around these parts: “presumption and holy water, each one takes as much as one wants” wich means, in respects to vanity and devotion, there are no set limits.

Comment from Jason
Time: September 9, 2008, 10:28 pm

I like all of Metallica’s albums, including St. Anger. I thought the production on St. Anger was weak in spots, but the personal message from James shined through in the lyrics and the fierceness of the guitars. Load and Reload were an acquired taste to be sure, but after spending some time with them I have come to love them as much as the earlier efforts. The only album that is hard for me to listen to all the way through is The Black Album, just because I have heard alot of the songs on the radio over and over again. Death Magnetic is a brilliant piece of work, and I really like the lyrics to Unforgiven III which surprised me because I am not a fan of sequel songs. It does seem like they are striving really hard to replicate the old sound, but I have to admit it is very successful. Metallica is my 2nd fav metal band behind Yngwie of course.

Comment from That_Guy
Time: September 9, 2008, 10:45 pm

Download the album - if you like it then BUY IT. IF not then find something else to listen to.

ARGUING ON THE INTERNET MAKES ALL OF YOU RETARDED!

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 10, 2008, 9:11 am

hahah “liked st anger”
If any other band released that CD you would hate it. It’s pure garbage. I think even the band themselves has all but admitted it. I actually bought that abomination. Ugh.

But yeah. Metallica fans are fuckin retarded. Enter Sandman.. the ultimate White Trash anthem.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 10, 2008, 9:23 am

And guys, Eric knows a thing or two. He can play guitar.

Comment from Eric
Time: September 10, 2008, 9:28 am

Wow! Open that can of worms! Remember it’s west coast thrash, (pssst. it’s more guitar driven.) LOL get out of the basement boys! I’m glad Hetfields back to shouting because if I have to here one more band with a lame singer like Iced Earth i’m going to shoot myself. All nightmare long… heard it? it’s like Slayer but improved. Great song. The solo is in key too. Playing a solo in key is like singing in key. No one sings out of key on purpose because it would sound just awlful. No one solos out of key either if they know how to stay in key.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 10, 2008, 10:54 am

See? Eric knows a thing or two.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 10, 2008, 11:52 am

hahahahahaha wow. Thank you Eric for proving my point time and time again. Metallica fans don’t know SHIT.
So you don’t like power metal singers.. thats fine. I like Matt Barlow but I hate power metal. What about the rest? What are your thoughts on growling?
This ought to be good…
meta - then use my quote and don’t be half-assed. If you’re going to bother to quote someone, at least use the write phrase. This ‘guardian of metal’ thing is a total crock of shit. I’m not going to sit here and listen to a bunch of fools that know nothing of the metal genre call Death Magnetic the best metal album in years while other tremendously talented bands released albums within the last 6 months that tower over this piece of garbage. Just because it says METALLICA on the cover doesn’t make it good.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 10, 2008, 12:12 pm

Eric - the fact you keep saying “get out of the basement” tends to suggest a notion of “projecting” as psychologists say…
I think someone arguing FOR Metallica instead of AGAINST is much more likely to be in Mom’s basement, trying to learn the solo from Trapped under Ice on his Ibanez Gio.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 10, 2008, 12:13 pm

But don’t worry.. Eric’s been around. He knows a thing or two.

Comment from meta
Time: September 10, 2008, 1:55 pm

ok then. let me use arguments you understand. your are a pompous self-righteous arrogant totally metal dude. Now STFU.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 10, 2008, 3:02 pm

I think its pompous to talk about Metallica like the be-all and end-all of metal when they dont even qualify as a fucking metal band. They release horrible, poorly executed music and their brainwashed fucking idiot white trash fans who haevnt found anything better to listen to eat it right up and throw more money at them, when bands that are 100,000,000 more talented struggle to get heard.

It’s fucking BULLSHIT that this band gets away with the music they release.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 10, 2008, 3:05 pm

You ever got to ozzfest and see the throngs of shitty lookin 45-year old rednecks drinkin budweiser and screamin because they only know ozzy?
That’s metallica fans in like 10-15 years. Acutally that already IS Metallica fans.

Expand your horizons. Go find better music it’s not hard.

Comment from CARTER
Time: September 10, 2008, 3:09 pm

What frustrates me most about this whole thread is that cole and cody make really good points, but nobody ever responds directly to them - they just go off on a spiel about something completely different.
That’s because there are no rebuttals to any of the poitns theyve made that make any sense.

Lars sucks - Hetfield can’t sing anymore - the riffs are boring and the songs are too fucking long.

Metallica sucks, they couldnt even play their own fucking songs live even in the 80s. If there’s so many musical geniuses here, look up disposable heroes live (from any era) and tell me theyre playing it on beat.

Go fuck yourselves fanboys, go flood another post with your “metallica is back” bullshit. because thats all it is, simple fucking bullshit.

Comment from coled24
Time: September 10, 2008, 4:28 pm

Thanks Carter for addressing the most important thing here: The fact that no one ever responds to a single argument I make. No one can argue why Lars isn’t a bad drummer. Not a single rebuttal. No one argues why James still can sing. You just say I’m wrong, so form some fucking points before you call me pompous and tell me I have weak arguments. I have a pretty open taste to music but it just bothers me that this band has so many people that are ready, willing and able to suck their cocks when the music is just not good anymore. It’s 2008, not 1988. Get over it.

Comment from MR SCOTT
Time: September 10, 2008, 6:36 pm

OK then carter and coled44 or whatever the fuck your name is YOU are the retards. ‘Death Magnetic’ is even supposed to be a 100% thrash album, its 2008 not 1984. and i could name u loads of other thrash bands apart from metallica, but like with most of us here metallica were the ones who introduced us to thrash! and for that retard slagging off lars’s drumming i wonder whether he could do any better! and unlike some other metal drummers lars does what he does with a tight precision. so stop slagging metallica, they were doing this before you were even in nappies